Michael Mann's book, The New Climate War, describes how planet roasters have abandoned denial of the climate crisis and turned to distraction, and blaming millions of individuals for succumbing to the social pressures that the roasters have set up.

Hie disagrees partly with Thunberg, saying that we should not despise the compromise policies recently adopted by governments. They are inadequate, but they are motion in the right direction.

When a powerful organization leads and pressures weaker and disorganized people to do something harmful, both the organization and the individuals are morally culpable -- but if we want to make an effective change, we must above all attack the organization.